Why A Health Insurance Mandate Is Terrible
March 10th, 2010 | Category: videos | 25 Comments »
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March 10th, 2010 at 5:38 am
@wmg111
hey dumby
all the things you listed below are
1) local
2) go over budget
or
3) are very corrupt
government especially the federal government has proven to be the most useless body to delever things. point me out one sucessful thing they did in the past 10-20 years
March 10th, 2010 at 5:38 am
And a portfolio full of junior gold mine stocks that are up 125% since early 2009. Go ahead, encourage Obama to spend us into insolvency. The more he spends, the higher they go!. We are no different than Greece.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:44 am
I suspect you know nothing of going off the grid. I have three, 100 watt solar panels on the roof of my trailer, they charge a bank of six big 6 volt batteries, liked in pairs. I go “off grid” 2 or 3 months a year on BLM land , outside of Quartzite Arizona. Big deal, now do I get a medal? You think depending on govt for all your needs is freedom? In the middle of the desert, we dont wait for the cops.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Half the country worked and went to school. Gee, forcing the young to pay for the old, that sounds “freedom”. Forcing those who always pay for insurance to pay for those who didnt, that sounds “freedom”. Forcing those who prefer low premiums and high deductibles to take high premiums and low deductibles, that sounds like “freedom”. Forcing anything isnt freedom.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Commodity stocks are going to tank in the future. You better work on obtaining the actual gold for yourself after this neo-conservative/corporatist agenda destroys our entire society. Obama can’t get an effective domestic agenda because he’s acting like Bush – spending money on a useless war and continuing to give rich assholes tax breaks. Don’t blame me, I’m for progressive change, not this corporate bullshit we’ve been getting since 1980 (Democrats included).
March 10th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I would suggest education, but obviously not in your case if your spelling is any indication. I guess you were home schooled.
I take it then, that if health care was provided locally you would be all for it?
What about the military? Coast Guard? Diplomatic Service?
I don’t get the American hostility towards your own government. Try thinking beyond your own fence-line (or trailor-lot as the case may be).
March 10th, 2010 at 7:05 am
If you think physical gold is OK, small gold mine stocks behave in a very leveraged way. Only an idiot would have 100% in such a speculative area as junior gold miners. But, it has been fun. Check out AGGFF. You are a typical Lib, railing against business. Everything in your home, garage came from business, a lot of tax paid by business, jobs are furnished by business. Govt is only a leech, sucking blood from businesses, and working folks, rich and poor alike and giving to the undeserving.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Businesses lobby ( bribe to you) because govt always is interfering in the free exchange between people and businesses. They lobby to survive. It is like the “protection” money the Mafia collects. Pay up, or get screwed. Solve this awful situation by not allowing the govt to be able to come between a customer and his choice of who he chooses to do business with.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Thank for the tip. You’ve got me wrong though. I’m all about small business and entrepreneurship, not big business and corporate power. Unfortunately with the cost of health care, pretty soon the only way anyone will be able to afford will be to work for the man. Small businesses are dying becasue of the cost of health care and the power of large insurance. What we have now is merger between big, corporate power, rich assholes and government. That’s why we’re all so pissed.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Private insurance runs on 4% or less profit. Non profit means no capital to expand, and only a 4% reduction max in premiums. Go back and study.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:12 am
So, liberty means FORCING the folks who dont need or want insurance to buy it? I think you should be forced to buy me a Jaguar you fuck.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:16 am
@Umberto2 The goal SHOULD be, how to cut costs. How did things get out of hand? Just fixing it so the govt pays does nothing for the cost, it just moves it around, makes it so the price is irrelevant to the consumer. There is not anything in the plans to cut costs.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:19 am
So, if you “forget” to save up to buy a car, do I have to buy it for you? If you cant pay the hospital, go home and take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning. I will tell you to drop dead.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:21 am
A subsidized public option insurance plan will eventually kill other insurance. Wanting public option is wanting 100% govt control. That is Obama`s object, he has stated it many times in the past.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Forcing healthy people to pay for the unhealthy, now that sounds like a fair, beautiful form of liberty, doesnt it? How about you buying your lunch, and I will buy my own? Thats fair.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:24 am
you need to get over your fear of the word socialism. government can work for the people. the plan does cut costs; you’re being dishonest. these companies aren’t going to regulate themselves. the current white house plan will cut government overspending and rein in waste, fraud and abuse. it’s basically a giveaway to insurance companies anyway without a public option. if republicans were doing health reform, the bill would look no different than this one.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:29 am
i completely agree with you in terms of “personal responsibility” but the system unfortunately guarantees emergency care…and nobody is suggesting that we remove that mandate…another issue unfortunately is that the health of your neighbours also impacts your health…think about it…do you want kids with infections disease running around untreated and going to school with your kids? do you want people with STD’s to have no access to medical care…that hurts the health individual as well
March 10th, 2010 at 7:31 am
lul. hey you trolling fuck. who said anything about liberty? Do you have the liberty to not pay taxes for the fire department you don’t use? How about the liberty to not pay for police and sewage? Not everyone needs it or uses it. I can’t believe the government FORCES you to pay for it. Or that the DMV FORCES you to have car insurance. FUCK THEM. I DONT NEED OR WANT IT. Until I get into a car accident. Then i’m fucked. Then i need the Fire and police departments. And my insurance.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:32 am
not to mention the drain on the economy…
going to your car example…that is why every driver is “mandated” to have liability insurance…if you didn’t then the premiums would be much higher than they are now…
and finally….there are millions of people that are “under insured”…meaning they pay premiums and do everything right…but get his with a catastrophic illness that surpasses the limit of their coverage…
unfortunately it is not as simple as saying…let the people w/o ins. die
March 10th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Its the Declaration of Independence. But, I am really interested in actually how the govt can “guarantee” my happiness. My happiness depends on a soft, well formed, smooth skinned, voluptuous woman naked in my bed. I am very happy.the last 10 years, but, how do you propose the govt to make me happy if something goes wrong? Or, how can they guarantee my life, if say, a bus runs me down?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:36 am
you are right…the issue is really not about the insurance industry “per se”…the issue has been framed completely wrong by the left…
March 10th, 2010 at 7:37 am
his analogy is missing one very important point…in America if you are uninsured and you get sick; you still have the right to go to the emergency room..the hospitals still have to cover you…and the tax payers and insurance companies pick up the tab…that added cost is passed on to us via higher premiums…so we are paying for the uninsured..that is why it should be mandatory that they get insurance..the issue is cost…and that is why a single payer system is the only truly viable option
March 10th, 2010 at 7:41 am
if it was as easy as…you don’t get insurance then its on you…then we wouldn’t be having this debate…but uninsured sick people 1) drain our economy 2) drain our nations productivity 3) spread disease and 4) cost every tax payer money in added services as well as higher premiums…so you are paying for them whether you like it or not…unfortunately…
March 10th, 2010 at 8:05 am
@luvcheney1 i don’t think any reasonable person thinks that the gov’t can guarantee your happiness…the gov’t is suppose to help maintain an environment which allows you to pursue your own happiness…
and the gov’t doesn’t guarantee your life if you are hit by a bus…US taxpayers have decided that they are willing to reimburse doctors and hospitals that treat people in dire situations…
March 10th, 2010 at 8:40 am
@ luvcheney
Quit being an ass.
Private insurances’ profit margins have little to do with those of a gov’t non-profit alternative. Do you even know what private insurer’s Operating Cost’s consist of? No, you don’t.
You just like to assume that private companies are as efficient as humanly possible, and so a gov’t alternative is a waste of time. You are of course forgetting that single-payer systems operate with Administrative Costs of about 6%. Name ANY private insurer that beats that!